I have not written anything here for a while. I might very well take up my virtual pen again and write more some day.
Have I changed my view on anything I wrote here? No. But I have clarifyied my standpoint on some matters. I have a more clear view about the ideology of LaRouche. I still regard it as a clear fascist worldview but I have a deeper understanding of the nature of it. A fascist almost pseudoreligious cult.
I also have a clearer understanding of the antisemitism of the movement which I would call antisemitism by proxy today. A certain overrepresentation of jews and zionists in their conspiratorical worldview. In Sweden the movement is cooperating with leading deniers of holocaust like the jewhater Carl Norberg. That if anything is a proof of the problem the movemnet still has.
I am open with who I am and what my background is. My Swedish blog can be accessed here: https://ligator.wordpress.com/.
/Torbjörn Jerlerup
Monday, August 24, 2015
Tuesday, September 18, 2012
To the Eight Former LYM Members who wrote "Why we left"
Upon reading the document that former members of LYM has published I wrote this in support of them.
To the Eight Former LYM Members
I have read the document: "Why We Left". Amazing. It is very good that you wrote this.
I was a ICLC member at the time when the concept of the LYM was introduced and developed. I left it after a visit to the USA 2003 when I realized that the organization was an authoritarian nightmare.
Some words about myself. My name is Torbjörn Jerlerup from Sweden. I was a member, fulltime från about 1990. I left the movement back in 2003/2004. Mentally I left earlier when I had gradually discovered I had been "living the life of the lie".
After I left the LaRouchemovement I had some years when I recovered and did some serious soul-searching. I became politically liberal.
When I left the movement I rejected the conservative outlook of it (as I regard it now). I no longer believe that it is up to politicians to decide how ordinary people should live their lifes. I have rejected the conspiracy frenzy of the movement too.
I remain politically active. I am not involved in a political party per se, but as a citizen activist. The focus of my activities are to combat rascism and fascism, as well as discrimination of all kinds, like homophobia.
I am writing this about myselkf, not to promote myself, but to show that it is possible to continue to be political active after you have left the movement. I am completely open about my years with the political cult, and the openess is seen by many as a strength. And yes it is actually a sign of strength, not weakness, to admit that you have been wrong and changed your mind.
And I am no agent. I know that I am regarded as that. "Cooperating with the Swedish ADL, sexual pervert, on the payroll on Expo, satanist, best friend of Dennis King". That is what I have heard that my old friend says.
Well... The fact is simply that I realized that I was "living the life of the lie", as Vaclav Havel describes it.
When you think back you will remember several things that made you reflect on what was happening inside the organization. Moments when you realized that something was wrong.processes that made you think and discover the flaws of the "system".
Preserve these memories as you would preserve valuable gems or diamonds. Because they are gems. They are crucial discoveries you made that made you reflect upon the system inside the organization, that made you realize that the "life of the lie".
For me it was several things. But first and foremost the knowledge that the organization would be a disaster if it ever rose to power.
Lyndon LaRouche hates democracy. I realized that he wanted to run the organization in his way, and no other opinion was allowed. And all members, from the top to the slaves in the galleys (phones and booktables), accepted this. If you discovered that LaRouche was wrong you had to hide it. Remember? Yes! No other opinion than LaRouches was allowed.
And people worked as slaves in the organization, in particular in the USA. For two years had the "boomers" worked on the phones and on the field för seven, later six and a half days a week. The organization claimed that it did not like "slave labour" (the primitive accumulation, you know?!) but the internal structure of it was totally based upon slave labour.
If LaRouche had been a military commander on the field, a general at war, he would have been declared a maniac. No general at war would ever let his troops be on the frontline for years and years. All generals know that troops that never rests get exhausted. War exhaustion. Only mad generals let their troops fight month after month without rest. Lyndon forced his troops to be in the trenches for years. How well do you think troops that never get rest fights?
And how would a nation look like run by a maniac that knows no other political method than slave labor (labor intensive work)?
How would a nation run by LC members that usually yelled at their "slaves"? How would a nation look like run by "leaders" that disregard democracy, that believes that force and imposing guilt are legitimate in order to "lead"? How would a nation look like where only one opinion is accepted, and all others opinions are declared to be "treason"? How well would a nation be run by a maniac that for 40 years has claimed that "within a few months there will be a nuclear/financial holocaust", and always have been wrong.
How well would a person lead a nation. that never once in his life has admitted to be wrong?
I still remember the day when I sat down and looked at several things Lyndon had written. I was looking for "hypothesis". Lyndon claims to base his philosophy upon hypothesis and that he is against the notion of a fixed absolute truth. I looked at his writings and realized that I nowhere could find a single hypothesis about anything. I only found absolute truths. I.e. I found statements by Lyndon about things that he had proven to be absolute truths, and all that did not agree with his view was to be seen as traitors and agents.
That was important, for me...
I still remember how some leading ICLC members reacted when I told them about my doubts. "Dont even think about it. Doubts are dangerous. You are blocked."
I could name other such moments. But this will suffice for the moment. But please remeber your "gems of truth". Especially if you want to help others that are still in the organization. It is paradoxes like these that will make them think and leave it.
You have left the organization now. GREAT!
Perhaps you feel guilt or are confused about life now? I dont know, for me it was partly so.
But remember that done is done. You cannot undo your past, but by changing your view of the past you can change the future.
I still love Cusanus.
At one occasion he said that it is not when you believe that you have all the answers that you are close to some kind of truth. You are closer to some kind of truth when you do not know the answers. Truth is in darkness and ignorance, not in the light and in certainity. Not in knowing all the answers, but in the humility that you do not know all the answers and that other people, of other opinions, might have some clues that may help you to form your opinion, your personal "truth".
Please, never let go of the view that you want to do good to other people. Never let go of your will to change the world to the better! And dont be ashamed that you were wrong. Be proud that you realized that you were wrong instead and changed your lives. Learn from your mistakes and grow as human beings.
And take care!
/Torbjörn
PS
And thanks once again for your document. It made me think and reflect and look back. And such things are always valuabl
I was a ICLC member at the time when the concept of the LYM was introduced and developed. I left it after a visit to the USA 2003 when I realized that the organization was an authoritarian nightmare.
Some words about myself. My name is Torbjörn Jerlerup from Sweden. I was a member, fulltime från about 1990. I left the movement back in 2003/2004. Mentally I left earlier when I had gradually discovered I had been "living the life of the lie".
After I left the LaRouchemovement I had some years when I recovered and did some serious soul-searching. I became politically liberal.
When I left the movement I rejected the conservative outlook of it (as I regard it now). I no longer believe that it is up to politicians to decide how ordinary people should live their lifes. I have rejected the conspiracy frenzy of the movement too.
I remain politically active. I am not involved in a political party per se, but as a citizen activist. The focus of my activities are to combat rascism and fascism, as well as discrimination of all kinds, like homophobia.
I am writing this about myselkf, not to promote myself, but to show that it is possible to continue to be political active after you have left the movement. I am completely open about my years with the political cult, and the openess is seen by many as a strength. And yes it is actually a sign of strength, not weakness, to admit that you have been wrong and changed your mind.
And I am no agent. I know that I am regarded as that. "Cooperating with the Swedish ADL, sexual pervert, on the payroll on Expo, satanist, best friend of Dennis King". That is what I have heard that my old friend says.
Well... The fact is simply that I realized that I was "living the life of the lie", as Vaclav Havel describes it.
When you think back you will remember several things that made you reflect on what was happening inside the organization. Moments when you realized that something was wrong.processes that made you think and discover the flaws of the "system".
Preserve these memories as you would preserve valuable gems or diamonds. Because they are gems. They are crucial discoveries you made that made you reflect upon the system inside the organization, that made you realize that the "life of the lie".
For me it was several things. But first and foremost the knowledge that the organization would be a disaster if it ever rose to power.
Lyndon LaRouche hates democracy. I realized that he wanted to run the organization in his way, and no other opinion was allowed. And all members, from the top to the slaves in the galleys (phones and booktables), accepted this. If you discovered that LaRouche was wrong you had to hide it. Remember? Yes! No other opinion than LaRouches was allowed.
And people worked as slaves in the organization, in particular in the USA. For two years had the "boomers" worked on the phones and on the field för seven, later six and a half days a week. The organization claimed that it did not like "slave labour" (the primitive accumulation, you know?!) but the internal structure of it was totally based upon slave labour.
If LaRouche had been a military commander on the field, a general at war, he would have been declared a maniac. No general at war would ever let his troops be on the frontline for years and years. All generals know that troops that never rests get exhausted. War exhaustion. Only mad generals let their troops fight month after month without rest. Lyndon forced his troops to be in the trenches for years. How well do you think troops that never get rest fights?
And how would a nation look like run by a maniac that knows no other political method than slave labor (labor intensive work)?
How would a nation run by LC members that usually yelled at their "slaves"? How would a nation look like run by "leaders" that disregard democracy, that believes that force and imposing guilt are legitimate in order to "lead"? How would a nation look like where only one opinion is accepted, and all others opinions are declared to be "treason"? How well would a nation be run by a maniac that for 40 years has claimed that "within a few months there will be a nuclear/financial holocaust", and always have been wrong.
How well would a person lead a nation. that never once in his life has admitted to be wrong?
I still remember the day when I sat down and looked at several things Lyndon had written. I was looking for "hypothesis". Lyndon claims to base his philosophy upon hypothesis and that he is against the notion of a fixed absolute truth. I looked at his writings and realized that I nowhere could find a single hypothesis about anything. I only found absolute truths. I.e. I found statements by Lyndon about things that he had proven to be absolute truths, and all that did not agree with his view was to be seen as traitors and agents.
That was important, for me...
I still remember how some leading ICLC members reacted when I told them about my doubts. "Dont even think about it. Doubts are dangerous. You are blocked."
I could name other such moments. But this will suffice for the moment. But please remeber your "gems of truth". Especially if you want to help others that are still in the organization. It is paradoxes like these that will make them think and leave it.
You have left the organization now. GREAT!
Perhaps you feel guilt or are confused about life now? I dont know, for me it was partly so.
But remember that done is done. You cannot undo your past, but by changing your view of the past you can change the future.
I still love Cusanus.
At one occasion he said that it is not when you believe that you have all the answers that you are close to some kind of truth. You are closer to some kind of truth when you do not know the answers. Truth is in darkness and ignorance, not in the light and in certainity. Not in knowing all the answers, but in the humility that you do not know all the answers and that other people, of other opinions, might have some clues that may help you to form your opinion, your personal "truth".
Please, never let go of the view that you want to do good to other people. Never let go of your will to change the world to the better! And dont be ashamed that you were wrong. Be proud that you realized that you were wrong instead and changed your lives. Learn from your mistakes and grow as human beings.
And take care!
/Torbjörn
PS
And thanks once again for your document. It made me think and reflect and look back. And such things are always valuabl
Saturday, May 28, 2011
Statement on Jeremiah Duggan
With this article I am urging more ex-members to step forward. Do it however you want, but just DO IT! One good way is to post a statement on the factnet or at a personal blog, as I do.
***
I was at the LaRouche-conference 2003, where Jeremiah Duggan participated too. I spent two days at the youth conference afterwards, and then I went back home to Sweden.
The night before Jeremiah died, or perhaps two days before I spoke to him.
At the conference he had voiced his opinion about several things, among them that he wondered whyt many of the people the movement were attacking were Jewish, but also why so many "enemies" were Brittish. The movement said that Sharon was "fascist" and he wondered if that was not antisemitic to say such a thing..
On the night I saw him in a very heated exchange with some of the french and american LYM (LaRouche Youth Movement members) at the youth hostel in Wiesbaden, where I too was staying. The exchange I listened to had to do with if the world could be changed or not, if humans are good or not. Duggan were of the opinion that mankind was evil and that ist was not possible to change the world to the better. He was clearly in a bad shape. Almost crying. The LYM told him not to be psychosexually impotent. They yelled at him that he was not "serious" about his life..
He left the discussion (or the Lym left him, I cant remember). I went up to him to calm him down and see what I could do. I was already at that time on my way to leave the organization and did not like the way new "recruits" were put under psychological pressure. I simply asked him what HE thought about things and let him speak.
First he voiced his worries about antisemitism, but added that that was no BIG problem. The biggest problem with the LaRouche-organization was that it was so "optimistic" that it believed that it could change the world. He told me that he had decided to visit the conference because the conference had an Anti-racist, anti-war and were opposed to "the conservative revolution" in The USA. But all this optimism about mankind and the nature of man that the LaRouchemovent apparently stood for, made him disturbed. It reminded him of a cult, he told me.
That REALLY freaked him out, because his view was different. He explained that he believed that mankind was evil and that the earth was the hell of another universe, a kind of giantic prisonhouse. Mankind are here to SUFFER, he told me. God is not a good God, but God is the devil.
This is what I remember.
My conclusion after the discussion with him was that he was on the verge of a mental breakdown. A breakdown that partly had to do with his very "black" and pessimistic worldview but mostly had to do with the methods the LaRouche cult used to try to recruit him and persuade him to join the cult.7
(I spoke to Poul Rasmussen from Denmark about my worries about him afterwards.)
After the death of Duggan the cult ordered an halt to all internal discussion about this. All obeyed! And that was one of the reasons I got mad at the organization. The things that happened was obviously problematic for the cult.
That is my statement.
/Torbjörn J.
May 28, 2011
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PS
To get a sense of hos I view it, I will add one relevant letters where I write things that I have forgotten by now.
1)
From a letter to an anti-LaRouche activist, 2009.
I do not know what happened later but know that beating opponents was NOT a part of the cultmethods at the time. (That does not exclude that he was beaten. There could have been a fight with individual members or something could have happened that made him angry. Remember that he was on the verge of a mental breakdown the night (?) before.) My view is still that he either committed suicide or had a breakdown and did not know what he was doing. (THAT IS MY OPINION!)
In retorspective my view is that he was most probably recruited in the way nearly all new recruits are recruited. he was recruited to come to the conference because it wanted to change the world.
http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/2009/03/on-duggan-campaign-why-alienate.html
http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/2009/03/more-on-jeremiah-duggan.html
/T
***
I was at the LaRouche-conference 2003, where Jeremiah Duggan participated too. I spent two days at the youth conference afterwards, and then I went back home to Sweden.
The night before Jeremiah died, or perhaps two days before I spoke to him.
At the conference he had voiced his opinion about several things, among them that he wondered whyt many of the people the movement were attacking were Jewish, but also why so many "enemies" were Brittish. The movement said that Sharon was "fascist" and he wondered if that was not antisemitic to say such a thing..
On the night I saw him in a very heated exchange with some of the french and american LYM (LaRouche Youth Movement members) at the youth hostel in Wiesbaden, where I too was staying. The exchange I listened to had to do with if the world could be changed or not, if humans are good or not. Duggan were of the opinion that mankind was evil and that ist was not possible to change the world to the better. He was clearly in a bad shape. Almost crying. The LYM told him not to be psychosexually impotent. They yelled at him that he was not "serious" about his life..
He left the discussion (or the Lym left him, I cant remember). I went up to him to calm him down and see what I could do. I was already at that time on my way to leave the organization and did not like the way new "recruits" were put under psychological pressure. I simply asked him what HE thought about things and let him speak.
First he voiced his worries about antisemitism, but added that that was no BIG problem. The biggest problem with the LaRouche-organization was that it was so "optimistic" that it believed that it could change the world. He told me that he had decided to visit the conference because the conference had an Anti-racist, anti-war and were opposed to "the conservative revolution" in The USA. But all this optimism about mankind and the nature of man that the LaRouchemovent apparently stood for, made him disturbed. It reminded him of a cult, he told me.
That REALLY freaked him out, because his view was different. He explained that he believed that mankind was evil and that the earth was the hell of another universe, a kind of giantic prisonhouse. Mankind are here to SUFFER, he told me. God is not a good God, but God is the devil.
This is what I remember.
My conclusion after the discussion with him was that he was on the verge of a mental breakdown. A breakdown that partly had to do with his very "black" and pessimistic worldview but mostly had to do with the methods the LaRouche cult used to try to recruit him and persuade him to join the cult.7
(I spoke to Poul Rasmussen from Denmark about my worries about him afterwards.)
After the death of Duggan the cult ordered an halt to all internal discussion about this. All obeyed! And that was one of the reasons I got mad at the organization. The things that happened was obviously problematic for the cult.
That is my statement.
/Torbjörn J.
May 28, 2011
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PS
To get a sense of hos I view it, I will add one relevant letters where I write things that I have forgotten by now.
1)
From a letter to an anti-LaRouche activist, 2009.
I do not know what happened later but know that beating opponents was NOT a part of the cultmethods at the time. (That does not exclude that he was beaten. There could have been a fight with individual members or something could have happened that made him angry. Remember that he was on the verge of a mental breakdown the night (?) before.) My view is still that he either committed suicide or had a breakdown and did not know what he was doing. (THAT IS MY OPINION!)
In retorspective my view is that he was most probably recruited in the way nearly all new recruits are recruited. he was recruited to come to the conference because it wanted to change the world.
When at the conference two things combined. First that he reacted to
the cultmethods in the organization, especially the false optimism of it. Secondly, the false optimism of the organization made him suffer a crisis, because his basic worldview was pessimistic: i.e. the world is evil, god is evil, the earth a prisonhouse, etc...
I am a bit unsure what happened then. Often when a new contact comes to a conference he or she continues to be provoced by the difference between what is said by the movement, and what some people call the movement (nazi, etc). Often they will voice their critizism in the open at the conference. The notes of Duggan, shows that this happened, and I can confirm that he reacted and asked if it is not antisemitic to
say that some jews, like Sharon, are fascist.
It is not true that opposition is seen as negative immediately. At a youth conference it is recepted in two ways. Either as good, because it is an opposition of a person that can be persuaded to be a hardcore member (Many fulltimers, old as well as LYM has had doubts, and expressed them in public at conferences, at first), or it is seen as a threath, because it desorganizes other potential recruits.
My impression at the time was that he was treated according to the first group. I remember that I spke to some people after the intervention Duggan made, and they saw it as fruitful (this could have changed later on, I dont know about that).
At the evening (I at least think it was this evening) I spoke to Duggan for some time. he talked about his fear about antisemitism, but confessed that it did not seem probable. The big thing he reacted on that evening was the OPTIMISM. he said that the organization is wrong because it believes that mankind is good and that politics can change the world to the better. His basic worldview was pessimistic: i.e. the world is evil, god is evil, the earth a prisonhouse, etc...
He talked about this for so long that I came to the conclusion that Duggan might be one person that has planned or plans to commit suicide. He is not stable. Ther older members I spoke later to said that "we know that, and have talked about it". Just before we talked he had gone through an "egostripping" session... 6 LYM:ers from France and the US stood around him and all "discussed" his opposing arguments and that tries to persuade him that he is wrong!
We talked about Shakespear instead for some time, and talked about his worldview, and then we parted.
On the day after or two days after, I left to Stockholm, and when I came there I heard that he had committed suicide. Probably two days after we met. I dont know what happened with him during these days...
I believe that the LYM made a demonstration at downtown Franfkurt or Wiesbaden one of these days. If so, it would have been during that demonstration/booktable deployment that someone made antisemitic remarks against him (I believe J tennenbaum told the mother that this had happened once.). Most probably that happened. Some old antisemites used to attack the jews inside the movement. I have seen that happen several times.
That a new LYM recruit is exposed to this kind of violent "attacks" (to use the LaRouchian language) during a deployment, is seen as good. But considering the state he was in I think that this was disasterous for him. I did not participate at the demonstration/rally, I think I was at the office doing intelligence work that day.
I cant remember everything. Some years has passed since the conference. But I want you to know the things I know! The dating might be other than what I have told, this is my picture of it.
And it was no antisemitic/nazi conference, not even a coded one! :o) It was a conference by a conspiratorical harmageddon cult, that wanted to recruit
people based on false optimism!
Six years after the conference, at a time when many, or even the majority, of the participants has left the organization after realizing that it is a dangerous totalitarian cult. Perhaps one would be able to get them to speak out if one treaded the cult more like a cult?
http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/2009/03/on-duggan-campaign-why-alienate.html
http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/2009/03/more-on-jeremiah-duggan.html
/T
Friday, May 27, 2011
On Jeremiah Duggan
A quick comment on Jeremiah Duggan. Just for the record.
I maintain that the LaRouchemovement is a CULT, especially the youth movement and the U.S. branch of the movement. I also maintain that I believe that the methods the cult used, and still uses, (social control, etc) led to the death of Jeremiah.
He most probably had a breakdown of some kind and the "organizers" of the movement most probably scared the shit out of him, not too uncommon when youngsters get involved with cults.
The reason I know is that I was there and spoke to him the day before, or two days before, and he did NOT feel well. And the young LaRoucheorganizers where pushing him more to the brink, with the demand that he should agree on everything, stop being "psychiologically impotent", and "join" the movement fulltime.
As I repeatedly have told the mother to Jeremiah, the police is free to contact me, anytime! But, please remember, that the story I have to tell, is what I saw and what I knew, and it is not something weird about a "nazi-conspiracy"!
/T
I maintain that the LaRouchemovement is a CULT, especially the youth movement and the U.S. branch of the movement. I also maintain that I believe that the methods the cult used, and still uses, (social control, etc) led to the death of Jeremiah.
He most probably had a breakdown of some kind and the "organizers" of the movement most probably scared the shit out of him, not too uncommon when youngsters get involved with cults.
The reason I know is that I was there and spoke to him the day before, or two days before, and he did NOT feel well. And the young LaRoucheorganizers where pushing him more to the brink, with the demand that he should agree on everything, stop being "psychiologically impotent", and "join" the movement fulltime.
As I repeatedly have told the mother to Jeremiah, the police is free to contact me, anytime! But, please remember, that the story I have to tell, is what I saw and what I knew, and it is not something weird about a "nazi-conspiracy"!
/T
Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Don Veitch book, Beyond Common Sense
Don Veitch book, beyond Common Sense, is available on the internet.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/55699439/Beyond-Common-sense
http://www.scribd.com/doc/55699439/Beyond-Common-sense
The Danger In LaRouche Psycho-Politics.
Lifton’s words are appropriate:
“Rather than stimulating greater receptivity and
‘openness to the world,’they encourage a backward
step into some form of ‘embededness’- a retreat into
doctrinal and organisational exclusiveness, and into
all-or-nothing emotional pattems more characteristic...
of the child than the individual adult “ (page 436)
“And if no peak experience occurs,
ideological totalism does even greater violence to the human
potential, it evokes destructive emotion, produces
intellectual and psychological constriction and deprives
man of all that is most...
and imaginative - under the
false promise of eliminating these very imperfections
and ambivalence which help to define the human
condition. This combination of personal closure, self
destructiveness, and hostility towards outsiders leads
to the dangerous group excesses so characteristic of
ideological totalism in any form.It also mobilises
extremist tendencies in those outsiders under attack,
thus creating a vicious circle of totalism.
Friday, November 5, 2010
Drawing Hitler mustaches on pictures of Barack Obama
Reading about the recent elections in the USA, and the Tea party, I notice that the LaRouche movement has had one great impact upon the current US political debate.
The LaRouchies introduced the habit of comparing Obama with Hitler. The were the once who first drew Hitler mustaches on pictures of Barack Obama.
Now many of the the tea party activists are doing the same thing, drawing Hitler mustaches on Barack Obama!
That is the kind of things that happen when the LaRouche "Democrats" show their "democratic" face.
/T
The LaRouchies introduced the habit of comparing Obama with Hitler. The were the once who first drew Hitler mustaches on pictures of Barack Obama.
Now many of the the tea party activists are doing the same thing, drawing Hitler mustaches on Barack Obama!
That is the kind of things that happen when the LaRouche "Democrats" show their "democratic" face.
/T
Wednesday, October 20, 2010
The end of the world did not happen... again!
It seems like good ol' Lyndon did it again. He predicted that not later than October this year the financial system would collapse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YilMhuiqBEo
He has certainly predicted these kinds of things before. Just read this:
http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.FcrasH
Unfortunately the police did a great mistake when they raided the offices of the LaRouchemovement around 1987. They seized the archives of the offices. That means that it is a bit hard for the youngsters in LaRouches-no-longer-so-young-movement (LYM) to read the old issues of New Fed of EIR. But I would recommend that they do so if possible.
They would find that Lyndon has predicted "with 100% certainty" tha crash of the financial system several times. Why did the system not crash in 1970, 1975, 1977, 1980, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1994, 1995 etc?
Lyndon LaRouche makes Jehovas Witnesses look sane in comparison, After all they have only been so stupid, as to claim that the world would collapse at a fixed date, about four times in a century. Lyndon has done so about forty times in 60 years!!!
Please compare Lyndon with the witnesses:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness8.htm
/Torbjörn
PS
Yes, I am back. I will keep this blog alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YilMhuiqBEo
He has certainly predicted these kinds of things before. Just read this:
http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.FcrasH
Unfortunately the police did a great mistake when they raided the offices of the LaRouchemovement around 1987. They seized the archives of the offices. That means that it is a bit hard for the youngsters in LaRouches-no-longer-so-young-movement (LYM) to read the old issues of New Fed of EIR. But I would recommend that they do so if possible.
They would find that Lyndon has predicted "with 100% certainty" tha crash of the financial system several times. Why did the system not crash in 1970, 1975, 1977, 1980, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1994, 1995 etc?
Lyndon LaRouche makes Jehovas Witnesses look sane in comparison, After all they have only been so stupid, as to claim that the world would collapse at a fixed date, about four times in a century. Lyndon has done so about forty times in 60 years!!!
Please compare Lyndon with the witnesses:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness8.htm
/Torbjörn
PS
Yes, I am back. I will keep this blog alive.
Tuesday, March 23, 2010
Not that active for the moment...
Please excuse that I am not so active at the moment, and that my blog is not updated. I am busy with something called: LIFE! Something the members in the LaRouchecult should try too. Life is wonderful!
/European
/European
Thursday, June 18, 2009
The truth about LaRouches campaign for "better" healthcare...
The signature "Eaglebeak" posted this on the Factnet recently. Bear in mind that LaRouche uses the same method INSIDE the organization that he calls "nazi-economics" when talking about the US government!
/T
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Boom (er) Bust
Overheard in Giant
You might call it gossip, if it were more light-hearted. But it's really pretty grim.
I have heard several reports around town recently about members in their 50s--people who have been in the organization since their college days--being thrown off insurance.
This includes:
People with chronic, debilitating diseases
People who went to prison for LaRouche, for Pete's sake
People who haven't held a real job in their whole adult lives, and are too sick (and unskilled) to get them now
People with thousands of dollars per annum in prescription drug bills
They're old, they're expensive--why, some may even be losing their passion for Lyn's Kampf--
So whoosh! Out they go!
What I can't figure out is how Lyn, crowding 87, thinks he's still younger than springtime.
The pictures on LPAC, when the Youth "LPAC editors" are dumb enough to put them up, certainly give that fantasy the lie.
I can't figure out how the "Boomer" members can put up with the obvious fear and loathing Lyn exhibits towards them.
But then I remember.... It's spelled C-U-L-T. The Soviets had their Prolet-kult, Bismarck had his Kult-ur-kampf,, but all that's left to Lyn is the Kult.
No Uncle Joe or Iron Chancellor he.
/T
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Boom (er) Bust
Overheard in Giant
You might call it gossip, if it were more light-hearted. But it's really pretty grim.
I have heard several reports around town recently about members in their 50s--people who have been in the organization since their college days--being thrown off insurance.
This includes:
People with chronic, debilitating diseases
People who went to prison for LaRouche, for Pete's sake
People who haven't held a real job in their whole adult lives, and are too sick (and unskilled) to get them now
People with thousands of dollars per annum in prescription drug bills
They're old, they're expensive--why, some may even be losing their passion for Lyn's Kampf--
So whoosh! Out they go!
What I can't figure out is how Lyn, crowding 87, thinks he's still younger than springtime.
The pictures on LPAC, when the Youth "LPAC editors" are dumb enough to put them up, certainly give that fantasy the lie.
I can't figure out how the "Boomer" members can put up with the obvious fear and loathing Lyn exhibits towards them.
But then I remember.... It's spelled C-U-L-T. The Soviets had their Prolet-kult, Bismarck had his Kult-ur-kampf,, but all that's left to Lyn is the Kult.
No Uncle Joe or Iron Chancellor he.
Tuesday, June 9, 2009
The double standards of Lyndon LaRouche's cult: health care!
Double standards is always a sign that something is wrong, in "normal" politics and religion as well as in cults, like the LaRouchemovement.
However, double standards can also empower a person that is in a cult to think for themselves! The American cult expert Steven Hassan ( http://www.freedomofmind.com/ ) writes in his books that it is very often the double standards that helps people leave a cult. When they see that the methods of the cult is another one than the teachings of the cult it is an alarm-bell, and it CAN make the cultmember think about what the heck he or she is doing.
I had many such double standards that helped me when I decided to stop bullshitting and leave the LaRouchemovement. For example:
* The cult claimed to be against "labor intensive work" (slave labor) but depite this the central parts of the cult (especially in the USA) worked seven days a week with the cult for more than twelve hours a day (except sunday, when they worked less), almost for nothing!
* LaRouche claims to base his method on HYPOTHESIS, and claims that no human can know the absolute truth, depite that LaRouche himself in EVERY speech and article claims that his worldview is THE truth, and it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to find one single hypothesis in any of his "scientific works" ("Hypothesis non fingo", to be blunt!)
* Since LaRouche holds the truth, no opposition is allowed and people can be subjected to harch attacks for doing such "outrageous" things as listening to Beatles of Elvis! (=i.e. the movement is NOT agapic, as it claims)
* This last thing means that the organization is dualistic, manichean, even if it claims to dialike dualism and manichean thinking. Everything is black and white, good and evil... And there are no greyscales and no colours...
All current members should look at the campaign for the healthcare in the USA. It is claimed that Obama is like Hitler because his health care reform is like the nazi genocidial program to "eliminate useless eaters" (disabled for example).
This is how Nancy Spannaus descibes it in the June 12 EIR:
"The Obama team showed no shame. Again and again, burnished under a patina of bureaucratic jargon, they demanded hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts for the most vulnerable of American citizens, insisted upon stopping so-called unnecessary medical care for as much as a third of the American population, and put their version of fiscal health before the lives of people. While they brazenly pour trillions of dollars of Federal monies into the very banking institutions which have brought the world economy to its knees, they tell American citizens, particularly those on Medicare and Medicaid, that they are "overconsuming" health care, and have to be stopped, "for their own good.""
I have no opinion on the US health care reforms and Obama, I know too little, but this much I can say: There is much that is wrong with it and I know for sure that some jerks in power believe that it is too expensive to help all people. That is not only wrong, it is also bad economics. I agree on that!
But before attacking others the movement should perhaps look at its internal policy!
My question to all that are members in the LaRouchemovement is if you have an insurance that is the best possible? Do all youngsters that join the movement immediately get an insurance that covers all? And is the families insured too, as is the case with many, many insurances in the USA.
Off course it is not!
People that have left the LaRouchemovement in the USA can tell that it is not so. The organization pays the most basic health care, but the insurances, if they even exist, are the cheapest and simpliest possible!
And this winter there was a big debate in Leesburg (the HQ for the cult) because the movement actually decided that family members that are no longer members of the cult or cannot work with the cult (for medical reason) should not get medical help, in the form of insurances for the family, from the cult.
And people that suffer some medical problem because he or she is sitting in a dusty office eight (!) days a week, it is not automaticly so that the working conditions are improved and the cultmember gets help. No, not at all!
So, why attacking Obama when you first should attack Lyndon and get a health care that is ok, not like today when the health care "insurances" and working conditions are so lousy that only other employers that use "labor intensive work" (slave labor) can be compared to it!
And... Lyndon LaRouche recently claimed that abortion is wrong and some kind of murder! Well... EVERY OLDER MEMBER OF THE CULT KNOWS WHAT PRACTICES THE CULT USED UP UNTIL THE 80s! It was abortion, abortion, abortion! The cult does not like children, that is a FACT!
If you still believe in the movements campaign for health care, you should begin by kicking LaRouches butt, not by attacking Obama!
/T
However, double standards can also empower a person that is in a cult to think for themselves! The American cult expert Steven Hassan ( http://www.freedomofmind.com/ ) writes in his books that it is very often the double standards that helps people leave a cult. When they see that the methods of the cult is another one than the teachings of the cult it is an alarm-bell, and it CAN make the cultmember think about what the heck he or she is doing.
I had many such double standards that helped me when I decided to stop bullshitting and leave the LaRouchemovement. For example:
* The cult claimed to be against "labor intensive work" (slave labor) but depite this the central parts of the cult (especially in the USA) worked seven days a week with the cult for more than twelve hours a day (except sunday, when they worked less), almost for nothing!
* LaRouche claims to base his method on HYPOTHESIS, and claims that no human can know the absolute truth, depite that LaRouche himself in EVERY speech and article claims that his worldview is THE truth, and it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to find one single hypothesis in any of his "scientific works" ("Hypothesis non fingo", to be blunt!)
* Since LaRouche holds the truth, no opposition is allowed and people can be subjected to harch attacks for doing such "outrageous" things as listening to Beatles of Elvis! (=i.e. the movement is NOT agapic, as it claims)
* This last thing means that the organization is dualistic, manichean, even if it claims to dialike dualism and manichean thinking. Everything is black and white, good and evil... And there are no greyscales and no colours...
All current members should look at the campaign for the healthcare in the USA. It is claimed that Obama is like Hitler because his health care reform is like the nazi genocidial program to "eliminate useless eaters" (disabled for example).
This is how Nancy Spannaus descibes it in the June 12 EIR:
"The Obama team showed no shame. Again and again, burnished under a patina of bureaucratic jargon, they demanded hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts for the most vulnerable of American citizens, insisted upon stopping so-called unnecessary medical care for as much as a third of the American population, and put their version of fiscal health before the lives of people. While they brazenly pour trillions of dollars of Federal monies into the very banking institutions which have brought the world economy to its knees, they tell American citizens, particularly those on Medicare and Medicaid, that they are "overconsuming" health care, and have to be stopped, "for their own good.""
I have no opinion on the US health care reforms and Obama, I know too little, but this much I can say: There is much that is wrong with it and I know for sure that some jerks in power believe that it is too expensive to help all people. That is not only wrong, it is also bad economics. I agree on that!
But before attacking others the movement should perhaps look at its internal policy!
My question to all that are members in the LaRouchemovement is if you have an insurance that is the best possible? Do all youngsters that join the movement immediately get an insurance that covers all? And is the families insured too, as is the case with many, many insurances in the USA.
Off course it is not!
People that have left the LaRouchemovement in the USA can tell that it is not so. The organization pays the most basic health care, but the insurances, if they even exist, are the cheapest and simpliest possible!
And this winter there was a big debate in Leesburg (the HQ for the cult) because the movement actually decided that family members that are no longer members of the cult or cannot work with the cult (for medical reason) should not get medical help, in the form of insurances for the family, from the cult.
And people that suffer some medical problem because he or she is sitting in a dusty office eight (!) days a week, it is not automaticly so that the working conditions are improved and the cultmember gets help. No, not at all!
So, why attacking Obama when you first should attack Lyndon and get a health care that is ok, not like today when the health care "insurances" and working conditions are so lousy that only other employers that use "labor intensive work" (slave labor) can be compared to it!
And... Lyndon LaRouche recently claimed that abortion is wrong and some kind of murder! Well... EVERY OLDER MEMBER OF THE CULT KNOWS WHAT PRACTICES THE CULT USED UP UNTIL THE 80s! It was abortion, abortion, abortion! The cult does not like children, that is a FACT!
If you still believe in the movements campaign for health care, you should begin by kicking LaRouches butt, not by attacking Obama!
/T
Monday, June 8, 2009
Is the LaRouchemovement a cult? Check out Dr. Robert J. Lifton's criterias for what a cult is.
DR. ROBERT J. LIFTON'S CRITERIA FOR THOUGHT REFORM
THOUGHT REFORM: THE PSYCHOLOGY OF TOTALISM
CHAPTER 22
(Chapel Hill, 1989)
THE FUTURE OF IMMORTALITY
CHAPTER 15 (New York 1987)
Any ideology -- that is, any set of emotionally-charged convictions
about men and his relationship to the natural or supernatural world
-- may be carried by its adherents in a totalistic direction. But
this is most likely to occur with those ideologies which are most
sweeping in their content and most ambitious or messianic in
their claim, whether a religious or political organization. And
where totalism exists, a religion, or a political movement becomes
little more than an exclusive cult.
Here you will find a set of criteria, eight psychological themes against
which any environment may be judged. In combination, they create an
atmosphere which may temporarily energize or exhilarate, but which at the
same time pose the gravest of human threats.
(BRIEF OUTLINE)
1. MILIEU CONTROL
the most basic feature is the control of human communication within
and environment if the control is extremely intense, it becomes
internalized control -- an attempt to manage an individual's inner
communication control over all a person sees, hears, reads, writes
(information control)
creates conflicts in respect to individual autonomy
groups express this in several ways: Group process, isolation from
other people, psychological pressure, geographical distance or
unavailable transportation, sometimes physical pressure
often a sequence of events, such as seminars, lectures, group
encounters, which become increasingly intense and increasingly
isolated, making it extremely difficult-- both physically and
psychologically--for one to leave.
sets up a sense of antagonism with the outside world; it's us
against them
closely connected to the process of individual change (of personality)
2. MYSTICAL MANIPULATION (Planned spontaneity)
extensive personal manipulation
seeks to promote specific patterns of behavior and emotion in such
a way that it appears to have arisen spontaneously from within the
environment, while it actually has been orchestrated
totalist leaders claim to be agents chosen by God, history, or
some supernatural force, to carry out the mystical imperative
the "principles" (God-centered or otherwise) can be put forcibly and
claimed exclusively, so that the cult and its beliefs become the only
true path to salvation (or enlightenment)
the individual then develops the psychology of the pawn, and
participates actively in the manipulation of others
the leader who becomes the center of the mystical manipulation (or
the person in whose name it is done) can be sometimes more real than
an abstract god and therefore attractive to cult members
legitimizes the deception used to recruit new members and/or raise
funds, and the deception used on the "outside world"
3. THE DEMAND FOR PURITY
the world becomes sharply divided into the pure and the impure, the
absolutely good (the group/ideology) and the absolutely evil
(everything outside the group)
one must continually change or conform to the group "norm"
tendencies towards guilt and shame are used as emotional levers for
the group's controlling and manipulative influences
once a person has experienced the totalist polarization of good/evil
(black/white thinking), he has great difficulty in regaining a more
balanced inner sensitivity to the complexities of human morality
the radical separation of pure/impure is both within the environment
(the group) and the individual
ties in with the process of confession -- one must confess when one
is not conforming
4. CONFESSION
cultic confession is carried beyond its ordinary religious, legal
and therapeutic expressions to the point of becoming a cult in itself
sessions in which one confesses to one's sin are accompanied by
patterns of criticism and self-criticism, generally transpiring within
small groups with an active and dynamic thrust toward personal change
is an act of symbolic self-surrender
makes it virtually impossible to attain a reasonable balance between
worth and humility
a young person confessing to various sins of pre-cultic existence can
both believe in those sins and be covering over other ideas and
feelings that s/he is either unaware of or reluctant to discuss
often a person will confess to lesser sins while holding on to other
secrets (often criticisms/questions/doubts about the group/leaders
that may cause them not to advance to a leadership position)
"the more I accuse myself, the more I have a right to judge you"
5. SACRED SCIENCE
the totalist milieu maintains an aura of sacredness around its basic
doctrine or ideology, holding it as an ultimate moral vision for the
ordering of human existence
questioning or criticizing those basic assumptions is prohibited
a reverence is demanded for the ideology/doctrine, the originators of
the ideology/doctrine, the present bearers of the ideology/doctrine
offers considerable security to young people because it greatly
simplifies the world and answers a contemporary need to combine a
sacred set of dogmatic principles with a claim to a science embodying
the truth about human behavior and human psychology
6. LOADING THE LANGUAGE
the language of the totalist environment is characterized by the
thought-terminating cliche (thought-stoppers)
repetitiously centered on all-encompassing jargon
"the language of non-thought"
words are given new meanings -- the outside world does not use the
words or phrases in the same way -- it becomes a "group" word or
phrase
7. DOCTRINE OVER PERSON
every issue in one's life can be reduced to a single set of principles
that have an inner coherence to the point that one can claim the
experience of truth and feel it
the pattern of doctrine over person occurs when there is a conflict
between what one feels oneself experiencing and what the doctrine or
ideology says one should experience
if one questions the beliefs of the group or the leaders of the group,
one is made to feel that there is something inherently wrong with them
to even question -- it is always "turned around" on them and the
questioner/criticizer is questioned rather than the questions answered
directly
the underlying assumption is that doctrine/ideology is ultimately more
valid, true and real than any aspect of actual human character or
human experience and one must subject one's experience to that "truth"
the experience of contradiction can be immediately associated with guilt
one is made to feel that doubts are reflections of one's own evil
when doubt arises, conflicts become intense
8. DISPENSING OF EXISTENCE
since the group has an absolute or totalist vision of truth, those who
are not in the group are bound up in evil, are not enlightened, are not
saved, and do not have the right to exist
"being verses nothingness"
impediments to legitimate being must be pushed away or destroyed
one outside the group may always receive their right of existence by
joining the group
fear manipulation -- if one leaves this group, one leaves God or loses
their transformation, for something bad will happen to them
the group is the "elite", outsiders are "of the world", "evil",
"unenlightened", etc.
THOUGHT REFORM: THE PSYCHOLOGY OF TOTALISM
CHAPTER 22
(Chapel Hill, 1989)
THE FUTURE OF IMMORTALITY
CHAPTER 15 (New York 1987)
Any ideology -- that is, any set of emotionally-charged convictions
about men and his relationship to the natural or supernatural world
-- may be carried by its adherents in a totalistic direction. But
this is most likely to occur with those ideologies which are most
sweeping in their content and most ambitious or messianic in
their claim, whether a religious or political organization. And
where totalism exists, a religion, or a political movement becomes
little more than an exclusive cult.
Here you will find a set of criteria, eight psychological themes against
which any environment may be judged. In combination, they create an
atmosphere which may temporarily energize or exhilarate, but which at the
same time pose the gravest of human threats.
(BRIEF OUTLINE)
1. MILIEU CONTROL
the most basic feature is the control of human communication within
and environment if the control is extremely intense, it becomes
internalized control -- an attempt to manage an individual's inner
communication control over all a person sees, hears, reads, writes
(information control)
creates conflicts in respect to individual autonomy
groups express this in several ways: Group process, isolation from
other people, psychological pressure, geographical distance or
unavailable transportation, sometimes physical pressure
often a sequence of events, such as seminars, lectures, group
encounters, which become increasingly intense and increasingly
isolated, making it extremely difficult-- both physically and
psychologically--for one to leave.
sets up a sense of antagonism with the outside world; it's us
against them
closely connected to the process of individual change (of personality)
2. MYSTICAL MANIPULATION (Planned spontaneity)
extensive personal manipulation
seeks to promote specific patterns of behavior and emotion in such
a way that it appears to have arisen spontaneously from within the
environment, while it actually has been orchestrated
totalist leaders claim to be agents chosen by God, history, or
some supernatural force, to carry out the mystical imperative
the "principles" (God-centered or otherwise) can be put forcibly and
claimed exclusively, so that the cult and its beliefs become the only
true path to salvation (or enlightenment)
the individual then develops the psychology of the pawn, and
participates actively in the manipulation of others
the leader who becomes the center of the mystical manipulation (or
the person in whose name it is done) can be sometimes more real than
an abstract god and therefore attractive to cult members
legitimizes the deception used to recruit new members and/or raise
funds, and the deception used on the "outside world"
3. THE DEMAND FOR PURITY
the world becomes sharply divided into the pure and the impure, the
absolutely good (the group/ideology) and the absolutely evil
(everything outside the group)
one must continually change or conform to the group "norm"
tendencies towards guilt and shame are used as emotional levers for
the group's controlling and manipulative influences
once a person has experienced the totalist polarization of good/evil
(black/white thinking), he has great difficulty in regaining a more
balanced inner sensitivity to the complexities of human morality
the radical separation of pure/impure is both within the environment
(the group) and the individual
ties in with the process of confession -- one must confess when one
is not conforming
4. CONFESSION
cultic confession is carried beyond its ordinary religious, legal
and therapeutic expressions to the point of becoming a cult in itself
sessions in which one confesses to one's sin are accompanied by
patterns of criticism and self-criticism, generally transpiring within
small groups with an active and dynamic thrust toward personal change
is an act of symbolic self-surrender
makes it virtually impossible to attain a reasonable balance between
worth and humility
a young person confessing to various sins of pre-cultic existence can
both believe in those sins and be covering over other ideas and
feelings that s/he is either unaware of or reluctant to discuss
often a person will confess to lesser sins while holding on to other
secrets (often criticisms/questions/doubts about the group/leaders
that may cause them not to advance to a leadership position)
"the more I accuse myself, the more I have a right to judge you"
5. SACRED SCIENCE
the totalist milieu maintains an aura of sacredness around its basic
doctrine or ideology, holding it as an ultimate moral vision for the
ordering of human existence
questioning or criticizing those basic assumptions is prohibited
a reverence is demanded for the ideology/doctrine, the originators of
the ideology/doctrine, the present bearers of the ideology/doctrine
offers considerable security to young people because it greatly
simplifies the world and answers a contemporary need to combine a
sacred set of dogmatic principles with a claim to a science embodying
the truth about human behavior and human psychology
6. LOADING THE LANGUAGE
the language of the totalist environment is characterized by the
thought-terminating cliche (thought-stoppers)
repetitiously centered on all-encompassing jargon
"the language of non-thought"
words are given new meanings -- the outside world does not use the
words or phrases in the same way -- it becomes a "group" word or
phrase
7. DOCTRINE OVER PERSON
every issue in one's life can be reduced to a single set of principles
that have an inner coherence to the point that one can claim the
experience of truth and feel it
the pattern of doctrine over person occurs when there is a conflict
between what one feels oneself experiencing and what the doctrine or
ideology says one should experience
if one questions the beliefs of the group or the leaders of the group,
one is made to feel that there is something inherently wrong with them
to even question -- it is always "turned around" on them and the
questioner/criticizer is questioned rather than the questions answered
directly
the underlying assumption is that doctrine/ideology is ultimately more
valid, true and real than any aspect of actual human character or
human experience and one must subject one's experience to that "truth"
the experience of contradiction can be immediately associated with guilt
one is made to feel that doubts are reflections of one's own evil
when doubt arises, conflicts become intense
8. DISPENSING OF EXISTENCE
since the group has an absolute or totalist vision of truth, those who
are not in the group are bound up in evil, are not enlightened, are not
saved, and do not have the right to exist
"being verses nothingness"
impediments to legitimate being must be pushed away or destroyed
one outside the group may always receive their right of existence by
joining the group
fear manipulation -- if one leaves this group, one leaves God or loses
their transformation, for something bad will happen to them
the group is the "elite", outsiders are "of the world", "evil",
"unenlightened", etc.
Saturday, June 6, 2009
From the factnet: Lyndon LaRouche and the double standards on Obama
The LaRouchemovement views Obama as a new Hitler, so once again... The contrast between what the movement claims that it aims for, and what it does, or says about Obama is, is striking!
This thing was posted by "poe" on the Factnet last night! I want to share it with you! ( http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=379425&postcount=2279 )
/T
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POST #2279 06-05-2009, 04:07 PM poe
Yesterday the President of the United States of America gave a speech in Egypt, the country where Schiller claims Monotheism was born. In that speech, the President:
1) Called for a Dialogue of Civilizations between Islam and the West.
2) Spoke of that which unifies the three great monotheistic religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
3) Called for a Two-State solution to the Israeli-Palestine dispute.
4) Taught about how the Arab Renaissance helped produce the European Renaissance.
5) Demanded a halt to the building of Israeli Settlements in Palestinian Territory.
6) Reminded the world that the United States was born out of a war against Empire.
7) Called the United States a historical force for progress in the world.
8) Called for removing all combat troops from Iraq by 2012.
9) Stated that a day to day improvement in the economic life of the Palestinians is necessary for the security of Israel.
10) Preached about how Non-Violent methods are the best means fot achieving political change.
and
11) Upheld the fundemental right of all nations, even Islamic ones, to the Peaceful use of nuclear energy.
Now, all eleven of these things were things that we were fighting for back when I was a member of the Labor Committees. So , after the speech, I went to all of the LaRouche websites to try to see what The Organization was saying about it. But all I could find there was posters of the President with mustaches scribbled on them, and video clips of children cussing.
This thing was posted by "poe" on the Factnet last night! I want to share it with you! ( http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=379425&postcount=2279 )
/T
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POST #2279 06-05-2009, 04:07 PM poe
Yesterday the President of the United States of America gave a speech in Egypt, the country where Schiller claims Monotheism was born. In that speech, the President:
1) Called for a Dialogue of Civilizations between Islam and the West.
2) Spoke of that which unifies the three great monotheistic religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
3) Called for a Two-State solution to the Israeli-Palestine dispute.
4) Taught about how the Arab Renaissance helped produce the European Renaissance.
5) Demanded a halt to the building of Israeli Settlements in Palestinian Territory.
6) Reminded the world that the United States was born out of a war against Empire.
7) Called the United States a historical force for progress in the world.
8) Called for removing all combat troops from Iraq by 2012.
9) Stated that a day to day improvement in the economic life of the Palestinians is necessary for the security of Israel.
10) Preached about how Non-Violent methods are the best means fot achieving political change.
and
11) Upheld the fundemental right of all nations, even Islamic ones, to the Peaceful use of nuclear energy.
Now, all eleven of these things were things that we were fighting for back when I was a member of the Labor Committees. So , after the speech, I went to all of the LaRouche websites to try to see what The Organization was saying about it. But all I could find there was posters of the President with mustaches scribbled on them, and video clips of children cussing.
Thursday, June 4, 2009
Have fun! :o)
First go to the "LaRouche memo-generator". Here you can generate random "internal memos" from LaRouche. All made up by combining real sentences by Lyndon LaRouche.
The spooky thing with the generator is that the "memos" are not half as crazy as the real memos LaRouche writes, but that it still looks like an authenthic LaRouche-product!
http://laroucheplanet.info/memo_engine/nonsense_lhl.htm
Secondly. The Swedish cartoonist Lindström (bonton.se) has drawn a picture from the latest cadre school with LYM, the LaRouche Youth Movement. It is the picture below! Please notice that it is Helga Zepp LaRouche that is giving the speech!
Thirdly! A reader of this blog noticed me that the cartoon figure Herman looks and acts a lot like Lyndon. that is true: http://comics.com/herman/?Page=2 Here is a picture of a typical evening at the residence of Lyndon and Helga!
The spooky thing with the generator is that the "memos" are not half as crazy as the real memos LaRouche writes, but that it still looks like an authenthic LaRouche-product!
http://laroucheplanet.info/memo_engine/nonsense_lhl.htm
Secondly. The Swedish cartoonist Lindström (bonton.se) has drawn a picture from the latest cadre school with LYM, the LaRouche Youth Movement. It is the picture below! Please notice that it is Helga Zepp LaRouche that is giving the speech!
Thirdly! A reader of this blog noticed me that the cartoon figure Herman looks and acts a lot like Lyndon. that is true: http://comics.com/herman/?Page=2 Here is a picture of a typical evening at the residence of Lyndon and Helga!
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
Lyndon LaRouche compares President Obama to Adolf Hitler!
http://larouchepac.com/node/10280
"The Hitler program has been revived by the Obama Administration," warned Lyndon LaRouche. "This is straight Nazi stuff. It's not a quibble; it's not an interpretation. This is a direct copy of the philosophy of the Nazis. You cannot duck that issue. This is Nazi stuff, and it's explicit. We know all this stuff from Hermann Goering and so forth in the 1920s, and after that with their international connections, like certain Wall Street firms. We have been warned, and we act accordingly. People who condone this are criminals, because they either knew, or should have known, what they are doing. They either knew, or should have known."
"This is mass murder," LaRouche said. "Obama has adopted Hitler's program. There is no reason to hold one's tongue...This is Hitler's policy now being echoed by Obama. Let's not allow any compromise. You have to attack this directly. He has adopted Hitler's genocidal health policy."
Lyndon truly follows on the path of such "gigants" as the late Frankhauser!
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"The Hitler program has been revived by the Obama Administration," warned Lyndon LaRouche. "This is straight Nazi stuff. It's not a quibble; it's not an interpretation. This is a direct copy of the philosophy of the Nazis. You cannot duck that issue. This is Nazi stuff, and it's explicit. We know all this stuff from Hermann Goering and so forth in the 1920s, and after that with their international connections, like certain Wall Street firms. We have been warned, and we act accordingly. People who condone this are criminals, because they either knew, or should have known, what they are doing. They either knew, or should have known."
"This is mass murder," LaRouche said. "Obama has adopted Hitler's program. There is no reason to hold one's tongue...This is Hitler's policy now being echoed by Obama. Let's not allow any compromise. You have to attack this directly. He has adopted Hitler's genocidal health policy."
Lyndon truly follows on the path of such "gigants" as the late Frankhauser!
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Monday, May 18, 2009
KKK collaborator of Lyndon LaRouche, Roy Frankhouser, dies!
Longtime KKK leader Roy E. Frankhouser Jr. of Reading dies
http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=138941
By Dan Kelly,Reading Eagle
The self-proclaimed head of the Ku Klux Klan in Pennsylvania died Friday in Spruce Manor Nursing Home, West Reading, with no known survivors.
Roy E. Frankhouser Jr., 69, who had operated the Mountain Church of Jesus Christ in the 100 block of South Fourth Street, which doubled as the local KKK headquarters, had resided in Spruce Manor since November 2006.
The Berks County coroner's office is seeking next of kin to claim Frankhouser's body.
Anyone with information about survivors or who wants more information call the coroner's office at 610-478-3280.
During his life Frankhouser had been convicted of an international fraud scheme, allegedly involved in assassination plots against U.S. government leaders, acquitted of a stabbing a rival Klan leader, lost an eye in a bar fight and waged a battle to get his white supremacist show on public access cable television, according to just a few of the dozens of newspaper clippings in the Reading Eagle archive.
The longtime Klansman and former member of the American Nazi Party was convicted in February 1995, following a four-day federal trial in Boston stemming from allegations he advised a white supremacist's mother to destroy evidence linking her son to the desecration of synagogues in Randolph and Brockton, Mass., as well as alleged assaults on black Brockton residents.
On April 28, 1993, Frankhouser was acquitted in Cumberland County Court of assault charges stemming from a 1992 stabbing incident in a hotel where a large KKK meeting was being held.
Frankhouser, then 53, was acquitted following a two-day trial.
The jury cited self-defense in finding the Klansman not guilty.
Frankhouser testified that stabbing victim Frank Mosley, a KKK security guard, and several skinheads ambushed and attacked him while he was attempting to enter the meeting. James W. Farrands, imperial wizard of a large Klan faction, was at the hotel.
Frankhouser said he defended himself with a Swiss army knife he had in his possession.
Frankhouser claimed a victory for free speech in 1985 when he launched "Race and Reason" on Berks Cable TV, the predecessor to BCTV.
He later hosted "White Forum" on BCTV.
He was on television on either network for more than a decade.
On Feb. 17, 1988, Frankhouser was sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000 for advising political extremist Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr. to obstruct a federal grand jury probe into an alleged fundraising fraud scheme.
During the trial, Forrest Lee Fick of Stony Creek Mills testified that he and Frankhouser were asked by a member of LaRouche's organization to kill former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger during a flight to Europe.
According the newspaper records, Frankhouser was first arrested in 1961 at age 22 for kicking an Atlanta police captain in the shins during a protest.
TO READ MORE, LOOK HERE:
http://www.laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.RoyFrankhouser
And from a book by Dennis King:
http://lyndonlarouche.org/fascism21.htm
http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/fascism22.htm
http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=138941
By Dan Kelly,Reading Eagle
The self-proclaimed head of the Ku Klux Klan in Pennsylvania died Friday in Spruce Manor Nursing Home, West Reading, with no known survivors.
Roy E. Frankhouser Jr., 69, who had operated the Mountain Church of Jesus Christ in the 100 block of South Fourth Street, which doubled as the local KKK headquarters, had resided in Spruce Manor since November 2006.
The Berks County coroner's office is seeking next of kin to claim Frankhouser's body.
Anyone with information about survivors or who wants more information call the coroner's office at 610-478-3280.
During his life Frankhouser had been convicted of an international fraud scheme, allegedly involved in assassination plots against U.S. government leaders, acquitted of a stabbing a rival Klan leader, lost an eye in a bar fight and waged a battle to get his white supremacist show on public access cable television, according to just a few of the dozens of newspaper clippings in the Reading Eagle archive.
The longtime Klansman and former member of the American Nazi Party was convicted in February 1995, following a four-day federal trial in Boston stemming from allegations he advised a white supremacist's mother to destroy evidence linking her son to the desecration of synagogues in Randolph and Brockton, Mass., as well as alleged assaults on black Brockton residents.
On April 28, 1993, Frankhouser was acquitted in Cumberland County Court of assault charges stemming from a 1992 stabbing incident in a hotel where a large KKK meeting was being held.
Frankhouser, then 53, was acquitted following a two-day trial.
The jury cited self-defense in finding the Klansman not guilty.
Frankhouser testified that stabbing victim Frank Mosley, a KKK security guard, and several skinheads ambushed and attacked him while he was attempting to enter the meeting. James W. Farrands, imperial wizard of a large Klan faction, was at the hotel.
Frankhouser said he defended himself with a Swiss army knife he had in his possession.
Frankhouser claimed a victory for free speech in 1985 when he launched "Race and Reason" on Berks Cable TV, the predecessor to BCTV.
He later hosted "White Forum" on BCTV.
He was on television on either network for more than a decade.
On Feb. 17, 1988, Frankhouser was sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000 for advising political extremist Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr. to obstruct a federal grand jury probe into an alleged fundraising fraud scheme.
During the trial, Forrest Lee Fick of Stony Creek Mills testified that he and Frankhouser were asked by a member of LaRouche's organization to kill former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger during a flight to Europe.
According the newspaper records, Frankhouser was first arrested in 1961 at age 22 for kicking an Atlanta police captain in the shins during a protest.
TO READ MORE, LOOK HERE:
http://www.laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.RoyFrankhouser
And from a book by Dennis King:
http://lyndonlarouche.org/fascism21.htm
http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/fascism22.htm
Friday, May 15, 2009
Lyndon LaRouche, the nonagapic homophobe that thinks it is right to beat homosexuals!!
Today I post a DISGUSTING quote by Lyndon LaRouche on homosexuality from 1986!
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"We have another purpose in fighting AIDS, for our fighting AIDS — for our inducing people to do what they should have done anyway without our speaking a word.
Government agencies should have done this. There should be no issue! But government agencies didn't! That's the issue. Why didn't they? Because of a cultural paradigm shift. They did not want, on the one hand, to estrange the votes of a bunch of faggots and cocaine sniffers, the organized gay lobby, as it's called in the United States. (I don't know why they're "gay", they're the most miserable creatures I ever saw!) The so-called gay lobby, 8% of the population, the adult electorate; the drug users. There are 20 million cocaine sniffers in the United States, at least. Of course it does affect their mind; it affects the way they vote!
What was the problem? The problem was the cultural paradigm shift. If someone comes up and says, "Yeah, but you can't interfere with the civil rights of an AIDS victim" — what the devil is this? You can't interfere with an AIDS victim killing hundreds of people, by spreading the disease to hundreds of people, which will kill them, during the period before he himself dies? So therefore, should we allow people with guns to go out and shoot people as they choose? Isn't that a matter of the civil rights of gun carriers? Or, if you've got an ax — if you can't aim too well, and just have an ax or a broad sword — shouldn't we allow people with broad swords and axes to go out and kill people indiscriminately as they choose, as a matter of their civil rights?
Where did this nonsense come from? Oh, we don't want to offend the gays! Gays are sensitive to their civil rights; this will lead to discrimination against gays!
They're already beating up gays with baseball bats around the country! Children are going to playgrounds, they go in with baseball bats, and they find one of these gays there, pederasts, trying to recruit children, and they take their baseball bats and they beat them up pretty bad. They'll kill one sooner or later. In Chicago, they're beating up gays that are hanging around certain schools, pederasts; children go out with baseball bats and beat them up-which is perfectly moral; they have the civil right to do that! It's a matter of children's civil rights!"
/Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., "The End of the Age of Aquarius?" EIR (Executive Intelligence Review), January 10, 1986, p. 40.
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"We have another purpose in fighting AIDS, for our fighting AIDS — for our inducing people to do what they should have done anyway without our speaking a word.
Government agencies should have done this. There should be no issue! But government agencies didn't! That's the issue. Why didn't they? Because of a cultural paradigm shift. They did not want, on the one hand, to estrange the votes of a bunch of faggots and cocaine sniffers, the organized gay lobby, as it's called in the United States. (I don't know why they're "gay", they're the most miserable creatures I ever saw!) The so-called gay lobby, 8% of the population, the adult electorate; the drug users. There are 20 million cocaine sniffers in the United States, at least. Of course it does affect their mind; it affects the way they vote!
What was the problem? The problem was the cultural paradigm shift. If someone comes up and says, "Yeah, but you can't interfere with the civil rights of an AIDS victim" — what the devil is this? You can't interfere with an AIDS victim killing hundreds of people, by spreading the disease to hundreds of people, which will kill them, during the period before he himself dies? So therefore, should we allow people with guns to go out and shoot people as they choose? Isn't that a matter of the civil rights of gun carriers? Or, if you've got an ax — if you can't aim too well, and just have an ax or a broad sword — shouldn't we allow people with broad swords and axes to go out and kill people indiscriminately as they choose, as a matter of their civil rights?
Where did this nonsense come from? Oh, we don't want to offend the gays! Gays are sensitive to their civil rights; this will lead to discrimination against gays!
They're already beating up gays with baseball bats around the country! Children are going to playgrounds, they go in with baseball bats, and they find one of these gays there, pederasts, trying to recruit children, and they take their baseball bats and they beat them up pretty bad. They'll kill one sooner or later. In Chicago, they're beating up gays that are hanging around certain schools, pederasts; children go out with baseball bats and beat them up-which is perfectly moral; they have the civil right to do that! It's a matter of children's civil rights!"
/Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., "The End of the Age of Aquarius?" EIR (Executive Intelligence Review), January 10, 1986, p. 40.
Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Cult or no cult? (Part 4) Is Lyndon LaRouche omnipotent and Omniscent, or just a macho bully?
I re-read today what an ex LYM-member posted on the Factnet in June 2004:
"(2) Is it possible at all that one human being should be right about everything all the time? When has Lyn EVER admitted being wrong? Does that sound normal? Therefore, is this someone I should be following, someone who implicitly claims to be infallible about everything? "
Good question. If one looks at the way the organization speaks about its guru Lyndon LaRouche, it actually seems like LaRouche is God.
Lets look at that. I borrowed a thing from this website: http://www.lava.net/~hcssc/Omni-God_Challenge.html )
The basic Christian theology centers around the proposition that there is "One Almighty" omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omni-benevolent "God" (embodied in Jesus) and one less-powerful, less-knowing, less-present, all-evil devil-god named "Satan." A host of "angels", "demons", "spirits", and other supposedly immaterial entities of varying superhuman but less-than-supreme power accompany, assist, and obey either "God" (good) or "Satan" (evil).
The organization believes that:
Lyndon is omnipotent -- that "He" is all-powerful; nothing is beyond "His" capability as a POWERFUL POLITICIAN; WORLD HISTORY CENTERS AROUND HIM, everything that has happened in politics the last 40 years has either been WITH him or against him, no politician has been greater and he is superior in every way, Lyndon is ALWAYS RIGHT (per definition) and has to my knowledge NEVER EVER admitted that he has been wrong about ANYTHING!
Lyndon is omniscient -- that "He" is all-knowing; nothing is outside or beyond "His" knowledge; no mind smarter; perfect in knowledge; He can grasp ANY subject, he is a universal GENIUS; and... Lyndon is ALWAYS RIGHT (per definition) and has to my knowledge NEVER EVER admitted that he has been wrong about ANYTHING!
Lyndon is omnipresent -- everything that happens on this planet has to do with him, all powerful people knows who he is and the evil oligarchs are fighting his ENORMOUS INFLUENCE UPON GLOBAL POLITICS; nothing is beyond "His" reach; "He" is at one with time and space; and Lyndon is ALWAYS RIGHT (per definition) and has to my knowledge NEVER EVER admitted that he has been wrong about ANYTHING!
Lyndon" is omni-benevolent -- that "He" is always good; incapable of evil; no greater love; "He" is perfect in every way; He is AGAPIC... And besides... Lyndon is ALWAYS RIGHT (per definition) and has to my knowledge NEVER EVER admitted that he has been wrong about ANYTHING!
And the enemies you have are all SATANISTS!
Well, Lyndon... If you were omni-benevolent, why do your slaves work seven or six and a half days at the offices, at least twelve hours a day, for NOTHING?
If you were omnipresent, howcome do no politician (more than your dear buddy Mugabe) like you, or even want to cooperate with you?
If you were so damned omniscent, why could you not forecast who bought your underpants, and were the money for food and clothes and housing came from, when you were asked about that at your trial?
If you were so damned omnipotent, why is it that you have often been so wrong, but are such a big COWARD that you dont admit that! (It takes much more strength to admit that one has been wrong, than to never admit any faults or flaws!)
You are no God!
And thus, the organizers and members are WRONG when they hold on to a worldview that more or less ASSUMES AXIOMATICLY that Lyndon is some kind of God.
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My Swedish blog is created!
For those who can read Swedish I have started the work to create a Swedish blog. You can read it here:
http://eap-larouche.blogspot.com/
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http://eap-larouche.blogspot.com/
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Sunday, May 10, 2009
The tour James Bevel did to Australia 2004
Hylozoic Hedgehog posted an interesting thing from The Searchlight on a tour James Bevel did for the organization to Australia, in 1994.
James Bevel was Lyndon laRouches choosen Vice president Candidate at the time. Last year he passed away after being sentenced by a court to 15 years in prison for incest against his daughters! According to the things said at court he was abusing his own daughter while he stayed in Leesburg at the time, 1992 to 1994, and was guarded by the security guards of the organization.
I remember that I spoke to him when he visited Europe for a conference that year. I sat down together with some other young members and he spoke about - sexuality! He said that he had had sex with cows(!) when he was young, but now he had learned to control his sexuality! He talked much about sex, when he spoke to youngsters...
The post about his tour in Australia shows that CEC spent 25000 dollars on a tour with public meetings where perhaps a dozen new people showed up.
“You have to ask yourself, why do these people bother? Possibly because they know they’re on a good wicket, flying around the country, chatting away on their long-distance phone calls, playing away at being secret service agents and spending other people’s money like there was no tomorrow.
“$25,000 spent for four or five new faces in the audience. That sort of gross financial negligence is usually reserved for government departments. That’s nearly a third of what the League of Rights spends in a year."
The post can be read here: http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=378887&postcount=2053
And please read my post on Bevel too: http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=378897&postcount=2060
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James Bevel was Lyndon laRouches choosen Vice president Candidate at the time. Last year he passed away after being sentenced by a court to 15 years in prison for incest against his daughters! According to the things said at court he was abusing his own daughter while he stayed in Leesburg at the time, 1992 to 1994, and was guarded by the security guards of the organization.
I remember that I spoke to him when he visited Europe for a conference that year. I sat down together with some other young members and he spoke about - sexuality! He said that he had had sex with cows(!) when he was young, but now he had learned to control his sexuality! He talked much about sex, when he spoke to youngsters...
The post about his tour in Australia shows that CEC spent 25000 dollars on a tour with public meetings where perhaps a dozen new people showed up.
“You have to ask yourself, why do these people bother? Possibly because they know they’re on a good wicket, flying around the country, chatting away on their long-distance phone calls, playing away at being secret service agents and spending other people’s money like there was no tomorrow.
“$25,000 spent for four or five new faces in the audience. That sort of gross financial negligence is usually reserved for government departments. That’s nearly a third of what the League of Rights spends in a year."
The post can be read here: http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=378887&postcount=2053
And please read my post on Bevel too: http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=378897&postcount=2060
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Saturday, May 9, 2009
The deeds of a good friend of Lyndon LaRouche...
In March this year the wife of Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai in Zimbabwe dies in a suspicious car accident, in which the Prime minister gets injured. Tsvangirai is a long time opponent of the President and dictator Mugabe, whom Lyndon LaRouche considers to be an ally. Tsvangirai is considered to be a Brittish agent by Lyndon because he works for democracy in Zimbabwe...
Many opponents of Mugabe has had sudden "accidents" recently.
According to President Robert Mugabe, deadly crash was "due to the hand of God"...
This is a drawing by Zapiro about the "accident"...
Apparently some of Mugabes allies knew about the crash BEFOREHAND (read more here). The Police apparently looted the belongings of the Prime minister (Click here to read more) and the minister himself has ruled out that it was an assassination attempt (read here) but most people believe it was a staged assassination attempt.
By the way. On May 5 a group of Human Rights Activists whose only crime is that they want democracy, was sent to jail. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/05/05/zimbabwe.activists.jailed/index.html#cnnSTCText
But in the eyes of Lyndon LaRouche democracy and Freedom is not so important as he views all that fight for democracy in Zimbabwe as Brittish agents, who are led by George Soros.
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Many opponents of Mugabe has had sudden "accidents" recently.
According to President Robert Mugabe, deadly crash was "due to the hand of God"...
This is a drawing by Zapiro about the "accident"...
Apparently some of Mugabes allies knew about the crash BEFOREHAND (read more here). The Police apparently looted the belongings of the Prime minister (Click here to read more) and the minister himself has ruled out that it was an assassination attempt (read here) but most people believe it was a staged assassination attempt.
By the way. On May 5 a group of Human Rights Activists whose only crime is that they want democracy, was sent to jail. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/05/05/zimbabwe.activists.jailed/index.html#cnnSTCText
But in the eyes of Lyndon LaRouche democracy and Freedom is not so important as he views all that fight for democracy in Zimbabwe as Brittish agents, who are led by George Soros.
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