The screaming sessions of Larry...

There were cultural differences between Sweden and the USA... We who worked in the Swedish organization was, in short, used to a more liberal atmosphere. And we did not work as many hours as the americans did.

So when a young person from Sweden went to the USA to organize there and see how things work in the USA this almost all the time led to a complete disaster... The young Swedes that went to the USA were simply chocked to see how dehumanizing and bad things were there, when they came to the U.S. 

I remember G. Mo. A young man that went to the USA around 1995. When he came back he just simply went to his parents and did not call the office for some time. When I later met him he was still in a state of total chock. People were like robots there, he told me... And he was horrified that leaders of the organization would shout and scream at the members. he had visited Baltimore!Some other youngsters that were around had the same experience when they came to the USA. R. Su, for example. He and O. Po told me about the "screaming sessions" of Larry Freeman in Baltimore. "Larry must be sick..:" were their comment, and both of them were so scared that they did not become members (for that reason and other reasons).

I knew about the screaming sessions. I witnessed them myself in 1992 when I was in Baltimore. I remember the first time I saw it. It was when E. Th had disobeyed an order to return back immediately to give me a chance to get a haircut and to get a subscription from a woman. Larry took E. to the litterature room next to the phone team room and yelled at E. Th for twenty minutes so the whole office could hear it.

That was the moment I for the first time was thinking about dropping out. "What the hell am I doing here", I was thinking!" Larry is raving mad and the whole Baltimore office must consist of mad cowards... No one protests!!! is this the way a beautiful soul should behave?"

I stayed in the organization because I knew Sweden was more liberal (Good old M, who had many doubts about the organization, had warned me that USA could be quite crazy...) and because I, as well as many others, believed that "Lyn is in jail, he does not know about this... If only Lyn knew", I thought.

Admittedly, things had changed a bit when I returned to Baltimore in 2003. Larry did not shout at the youngsters anymore. They were "organized" differently with a more soft version of brainwashing and group-pressure. The older phoneteam members were under enormous pressure though and Larry and Deborah used the same old hatefilled un unrespectful language to make them more "efficient" during fundraising as before. There was a shift in method... The young once got one day of as reading day and were treated in a softer way, while the older "boomers" were treated harsch with work seven days a week, etc... 

I was almost fooled by this diversion of method... Until I realized that first, the LYM works as dehumnizing and mad as the boomers, but in a different way, and that the future of LYM would be to organize like the older members... 

The way the "boomers" (the older members) are treated today will be the same way the LYM would be treated, and treat each other, in the future!

And when I later in November heard Helga say that Lyndon LaRouche himself had ordered the seven days workweek for the older members, I lost my last hope about the organization.

/T

Lycurgian politics - permanent warfare!

Lyndon LaRouche has created an organization that is a cult. The selfimposed environment this cult works in is one of "permament warfare"... This method of claiming that the organization is in a state of more or less permanent war is one which LaRouche shares with classical tyrants in history, like Lycurgus and Benito Mussolini.

All that matters in this cult is what the leader says and does. Opposition to the leader, or even different opinions than the leader has, does not exist at all. New recruits are introduced to a black-and-white, dualistic, world of good and evil, where the future of mankind depends on the followers of LaRouche. Without their work to spread the ideas of LaRouche the world is "doomed", they claim!

The followers are working for almost no income, often seven days a week (There are regional differences. In the USA they work seven or six and a half days a week, including the youth. In Europe it is sometimes a bit different.). "We are in war", the LaRouchemovement members often say. "We are in a war for civilization, we are in a constant war-mobilization with LaRouche as our supreme commander", it is claimed. People that get tired or worn out by this are explained to suffer of "battle-fatigue" or being "cowards in tha face of battle". Opposition to the "commander", i.e. LaRouche, is described as opposition to a commander during a war!

Why I dropped out!

I dropped out because I realized the danger with this view of the "permanent warfare". 

What will happen when LaRouche gets power, I asked myself... And I studied and realized the similarities between the fascist ideas Mussolini had about the "constant warfare", and its similarities with the classical idea that Schiller wrote about: the tyrannical Lycurgian and spartan method of making WARFARE the most important virtue of the society.

I also realized that LaRouche all the time said one thing and did another. He is a man of double standards. 

Just to mention a few examples:

* laRouche talks much about hypothesis and to search for truth, but when he writes his political speeches and articles they are ALWAYS written as if LaRouche has the absolute truth about EVERYTHING. Read anything LaRouche writes, there are NO hypothesis at all, just pure FACTS and absolute statements about how things "are", and "is" and "are not"... No hypothesis at all... Nothing is unclear... LaRouche already knows what the truth is! (Hypothesis non fingo, is a proper slogan for LaRouche!)

* He claims to be for a dialogue, but in order to be for a dialogue you have to believe that there is something to learn from people with a different worldview. But how can one learn anything from others if you already possess the absolute truth, as LaRouche IN FACT does.

* He claims to be against labor-intensive economical methods. "Primitive Accumulation", as it sometimes is called. I believe that labor-intensive work is not good, it tends to degenerate people. This is something LaRouche would agree on, if one asks him about it. But to say something is one thing, TO DO is another. Look at is creation, the LaRouchemovement! Is the organization labor- or capitalintensive? Is the standards of living high, normal or low or lousy among the members? Do they still work 6,5 or 7 days a week, more than twelve hours a day. (The resistancemovements, the armies in war and the civil rights movement DID NOT work constantly without rest, holidays or days off... The ideology of permanent warfare does NOT justify the laborintensive methods of LaRouche!)

* But did he not predict the current economic crisis? 

No! If you week after week predict that a certain number will show up on a lottery and it shows up once every ten years, it does not mean that you have predicted that it will show up. LaRouche has claimed that the financial system is "doomed" for 50 years or so now. Look at the archives of the movement (old EIR:s etc...) and count the numbers of times LaRouche has said that the financial system is TOTALLY DOOMED. You can find the articles about that it will not survive at all after the first term of Clinton, after the second term, after the first term of Reagan... Etc...  (LaRouche says that he only gives economic forecasts, not predictions. Ok... So why does he present his financial analysis as PREDICTIONS, not forecast? He PREDICTS, he does not say that "perhaps this or this will happen", but IT WILL HAPPEN! PREDICTION, not forecasts.)

* He spreads hatred! The conspiratorical worldview of Lyn divides all people into "good people" or "evil people".  Those that laRouche does not like, and that is basicly all scientists, politicians and economists worldwide, are attacked in the most brutal and violent "mussolini-style" manner. Presidents, scientists and politicians are called "nazis", "monkeys", "apes" "agents", "lunatics", "madmen", etc... Yes, there is much talk about "love", "agape", and the unity of mankind in the organization. LaRouches speeches are filled with words like that. There is much talk about liberating the world from starvation, racism, nazis, colonialism and unjustices. But the end does NOT justify the means. One cannot fight one kind of unjustice by using other kinds of unjust methods! Hatred is not a good method to fight back hatred with!

An afternoon with Helga...

A world led by Lyndon LaRouche would be a world led in the same way that LaRouche leads his organization. One can easily judge what a person is like really, by looking at what a person does, not only what a person says. And if you want to find out how a political leader will be, once he or she gets power, look at how he or she leads any organization they are leading today and look at how he or she manages his or her private social affairs.

And the organization is run as by a madman!

I finally realized this one day in november 2003. I was invited to the home of Helga Zepp LaRouche, LaRouches wife and leader of the european organization. I had threathened to drop out and therefore she wanted to meet me, to make me stay. I asked her about the U.S. organization and why the members were forced to work so much. "They work almost seven days a week, 12 hours a day", I said,"and there is nothing that justifies anything like that". "We are in war for the survival of the civilization", she answered. "But no leading general would let their troops work during a war as much as the members in USA work", I replied. "ALL good generals have known that a soldier that gets to rest, that perhaps only fights five or six days a week or so, is a more capable soldier than one that fights constantly without being able to rest..." To this helga answered: "But Lyn (Lyndon laRouche) decided that the members should work seven days a week, and now six and a half day, and surely you know that he is the best commander and a brilliant general?"...

That was the crucial moment (puntum saliens!). That very moment I realized that LaRouche was mad! And that Helga was an incompetent subcommander.

Some months afterwards I left the organization!

Lycurgus!

During my time in the organization we often talked about the little essay by Friedrich Schiller, The Legislation of Lycurgus and Solon. We, off course, viewed ourselves as followers of the great Solon and the communists/Brittish/hedonists/ etc were the followers of Lycurgus! In short LaRouchian worldview versus the oligarchical outlook. (It is available in an abriged version at one of the LaRouche homepages: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/transl/lycurgus_solon.html)

The essay is definitely one about the difference between a tyrannical leader and a more "humanist" kind of leader, but now that I have left the organization I hardly think Schiller would have said that LaRouche was a good representative of the "good guys".

The spartan leader Lycurgus created a state in which warfare was the highest virtue. The joy, freedom and development of individual citizens was sacrificed in order for the highest good; that the citizens were to devote themselves totally for the good of the state and the leaders of the state. The joy of life was replaced by the duties and responsibilities of the state! Lycurgus brainwashed his citizens so that they did not want to live by themselves; to choose their own way of doing things.  No one was allowed to live according to his own desires.  The state was an armed camp with the state and its leaders as the highest good.

This is why Lycurgus sometimes has been called the first fascist! And that is why I would caratherize LaRouche as a politician in the tradition of Lycurgus!

To end with Schiller, once more:

"Lycurgus's plan also entailed, that attachment to property was supplanted by attachment to the fatherland, and that emotions, undiverted by any private concerns, only lived for the state. Thus, he thought it good and necessary, to also spare his fellow citizens the business of normal life, and to let these affairs be attended to by foreigners, so that not even concerns of work, nor the joy of domestic matters, would divert their attentions from the affairs of the fatherland..."

"Beautiful and fitting it was of Solon, that he had respect for human nature, and never sacrificed people to the state, never the end to the means, rather let the state serve the people. His laws were loose bonds, in which the minds of the citizens moved freely and easily in all directions, and never perceived, that the bonds were directing them; the laws of Lycurgus were iron chains, in which bold courage chafed itself bloody, which pulled down the mind by their pressing weight. All possible paths were opened by the Athenian legislator to the genius and diligence of his citizens; the Spartan legislator walled off all of his citizens' potentials, except one: political service. Lycurgus decreed indolence by law, Solon punished it severely. In Athens, therefore, all virtues matured, industry and art flourished, the blessings of diligence abounded, all fields of knowledge were cultivated."

/T

To read more on Lycurgus, read here: 

http://www.e-classics.com/lycurgus.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycurgus_(Sparta)

http://www.katjasdacha.com/whiterose/leaflets/E1.html

Welcome!

This is a place for my thoughts and my research...

I am a person that always have believed in the saying that the pen is mightier than the sword. A person that loves the written language!

This blog is the place were I will write down my reflections about my years in the movement created and led by Lyndon LaRouche.  I will write down my experiences of the LaRouchian worldview in order to help the youngsters of today and tomorrow to expose LaRouche as the cultleader and Lycurgian, fascist, politician he is.

I dropped out after realizing that LaRouche uses double standards. he says one thing and does another. I joined the organization once because I hated to see this kind of double standard in normal politics in Sweden and Europe (where I live) and I dropped out of the LaRouchemovement because I saw the same in LaRouche!

I will write more about this in the coming weeks...

Let me finish by saying that I do not believe that LaRouche and the movement is simply some kind of racist neonazi-movement, that some people say. LaRouche, and the movement, is more complex than that.

I wrote this some time ago in one of my first posts on factnet:

"1) Lyn is for a dialogue, especially a dialogue of civilization, these days. Right! Lyn also claims to base his method on HYPOTHESIS! Right! He is against absolute truths...

So... In his speeches he ALWAYS presents things as ABSOLUTE TRUTHS, something he formally is opposing. There are no or very few traces of any hypothesis in his political speeches, everything is formed as absolute truths! This is contrary to his stated method. 

Which off course also means that there will be no dialogue, since Lyn only accepts a "dialogue" with people that has the same worldview as he himself!

2) Lyn PERSONALLY ordered the boomers to work 7 days a week, some years ago. I think they still in the USA work 6,5 days a week on the sales teams. Study history and you will find that this is primitive accumulation, labourintensive work, by the way the same method as the slave owners, the brittish and tha nazis had, that Lyn speaks so much that he dislikes. No competent general would ever let its troops work 7 or 6,5 days a week year after year!

How would a nation run by Lyn be? Look at how he runs his "nation" today, i.e. the movement!

What is Lyn? Cultleader, TOTALITARIAN, fanatic, with traces of fascism and a conservative authoritharian worldview (obey the leader), a leader that claims that his method is one and then in his speeches does something else. A proponent of LABOURINTENSIVE work (slavelabour), a proponent of a strictly authoritharian dictatorially run organizations (obey the leader)."

That is what I mean!

/T

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To end this first post, lets hear what Schiller has to say!

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/transl/lycurgus_solon.html

"In respect of the purpose set for it, Lycurgus's legislation is a masterpiece, of statecraft and human-craft. He wanted a powerful state, founded upon itself, and indestructible; political strength and longevity were the aims for which he strove, and he achieved these aims, to the extent possible under the conditions he confronted. But if one compares the aims Lycurgus set himself with the aims of mankind, then profound disapproval must take the place of the admiration, which our first fleeting glance enticed from us. Everything may be sacrificed for the best of the state, but not that, which serves the state itself only as an instrument. The state itself is never the purpose, it is important only as the condition under which the purpose of mankind may be fulfilled, and this purpose of mankind is none other than the development of all the powers of people, i.e., progress. If the constitution of a state hinders the progress of the mind, it is contemptible and harmful, however well thought-out it may otherwise be, and however accomplished a work of its kind. Its longevity then serves the more to reproach it than to celebrate its glory—it is then merely a prolonged evil; the longer it exists, the more harmful it is."

Or as Schiller would have written about LaRouche:

"Lycurgus's plan also entailed, that attachment to property was supplanted by attachment to the Lyndon LaRouche, and that emotions, undiverted by any private concerns, only lived for organizing. Thus, he thought it good and necessary, to also spare his fellow citizens the business of normal life ..., so that not even concerns of work, nor the joy of domestic matters, would divert their attentions from the affairs of Lyndon LaRouche."